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· TOH 31 - 1 Sr. Alexine Beam
This interview is being conducted as part of the Oral History Program of the Sisters of Charity
at Seton Hill. The interviewee is Sister M. Alexine Beam. The interview is being conducted by
Sister Marie Corona Miller at Greensburg Faculty House. The date is January twenty-ninth,
nineteen eighty-seven.
SMCM: Good morning Sr. Alexine! I'm happy to be with you today to talk about your personal
history and your history as a Sister of Charity. Would you like to tell us some things?
SAB: I was born in Allegheny General Hospital on February twentieth, nineteen seven, the oldest
of three children. I have a sister, Hilda, who is thirteen months younger, and a brother, William,
who is three years younger. My father was not a Catholic, so I was raised in a semi-Catholic,
Lutheran environment. My mother ruled our religion. My father's people were definitely
Lutheran. I remember my father coming home one time with papers to become a Mason. At that
time, Masons were very hostile toward the Catholic religion. I was only about four years old, but
I remember them talking in the living room. We had a big coal fire in the living room. They
were talking so seriously. Being curious, I needed warmed up in there. He had a paper in his
hand, and he said: "Kitty, (that's what he called my mother), my brothers are all Masons, and I'd
like to join." She took the paper and she said: "George Beam, select now between me or the
Masons. You know they have no love for my religion." He walked over to the coal fire and
threw the paper in.
SAB: There was no Catholic School in Crafton at the time when we moved there. My sister,
brother, and I had to go to the public school for the frrst couple of years. St. Philip's was built in
nineteen sixteen, but my Dad died that year. I was only nine years old. My mother had three of
us to raise. My grandfather really raised us.
SMCM: Was that your father's father?
SAB No, it was my mother's father. My father's people were not very close. I wouldn't say that
they didn't love us. In those days, where there were two religions, they were diametrically
opposed to one another. His father was wonderful. He loved us, and we loved him. His mother
did not like my mother at all. There was no love lost between them. Even when my Dad died,
they didn't come down to our home. In those days, the body was brought to the home, not the
funeral home. His parents did not come the night before the funeral. I want to tell something
very interesting. I was only nine years old. My Aunt Annie came and kept house for us while
my mother was at the hospital. A call came late (couldn't determine when as there was a loud
crashing sound) that my Dad was dying, so my mother and my Aunt Annie went to the hospital,
but when they got there, he was already dead. They were going to bring his body home that
evening about four o'clock. Father Kelty came up to the house. He went up and sat beside my
mother, who was in bed, as she had been up all night. They brought Dad's body home. Father
Kelty took me by one hand and put his arm around my mother. I never forgot that man. He
stayed with her until she cried out completely.
SMCM: Was Father Kelty pastor at St. Philip's at that time?

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SAB: Yes, he was.
Then we went to St. Philip's School. My mother had us transferred from the public school to St.
Philip's. I had some marvelous teachers. I had Sister Hyacinthe Ryan, who was an absolute
perfect teacher. Then there was Sister M. Adele McCullough, Sister Francis de Sales Connelly
II, Sister M. Dorothy Hess, Sister Generosa, and Sister Sara Fidelis Boyle was the eighth grade
teacher.
I went to St. James High School. I switched from the Academic to Commercial. I didn't like
the Commercial Course. I went to the first day ofthe "commercial", but it was not for me. In
going home, I just stayed on the streetcar, and went all the way home to Father K elty. I told him I
didn't know what I was going to do because I didn't want Commercial work. He said to me:
"Well, are you sure you want to become a Sister?" I was surprised he even thought I was
thinking about it. So, he sent me over to Sister M. Aquinas O'Brien, who was the Sister Servant.
She took me over and talked to me. She took me to Seton Hill and I entered November first,
nineteen twenty-three. I had not finished High School, but did complete it at the Academy.
Sister Theodosia Murtha and Sister Anne Elizabeth Regan were also at the Academy. There
were others, but I've forgotten their names.
SMCM: Who entered with you?
SAB: Sister Alberta Sweeney entered with me. We got the habit on the second ofFebruary. The
following September, both ofus were sent to St. Benedict's to teach. I was very frightened, as I
was just seventeen at the time. Sister Charlotte Judge taught the sixth or eighth grade. She came
down to my classroom once or twice everyday to show me how to teach. We had on the job
training. She showed me how to teach Reading and Arithmetic.
SMCM: What grade was that?
SAB: It was First Grade. We were Novices. Sister M. Clarissa Cunningham was there too. In
those days, we walked to school.
SMCM: From Seton Hill?
SAB: Yes, from Seton Hill. We walked every day. The only time we didn't walk was ifit was
raining too hard.
SMCM: How long did it take you to walk to school?
SAB: It took about fifteen minutes, except when there was snow. Being young people, we took
our time in the snow, and ofcourse, we were wet when we got there. We did get a ride home
from school everyday.
SAB: Then I was sent to Sharpsburg.
SMCM: What was the name ofthe parish?
SAB: It was St. Joseph's Parish. I was there for a couple ofyears and was then transferred to the
old Sacred Heart down on Center Avenue. I had first grade there. Sister Mary Felix Clarey was
there. She helped in guiding me what to do in my teaching. I had some very good teachers when
I first started out. They really showed you how to do it correctly the first time.
SMCM: So, you stayed in primary?
SAB: I was in the primary department for fourteen years.
SMCM: What grade did Sr. Mary Felix have?
SAB: Sr. Mary Felix had third grade, and I had frrst. We had two frrst grades, because we had

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about one hundred children. Sister Mary Hugh Bridge had one, and I had the other. I think we
had two sessions, because we had forty or fifty children at a time in each session.
SMCM: Did you have that many seats in your classroom?
SAB: No, we had to divide the class in half....one session from nine AM until Noon, and a
second session from one PM until four PM.
Sister M. Victorine Ellsworth was Principal when I fust went to Sacred Heart. Sister Rose
Vincent McNulty replaced her. She was an excellent school woman.
Someone usually went out visiting in the evening. This particular evening, Sr. Mary Felix asked
me if I would go with her to visit a very sick child in the Highland Avenue Apartments. The
Highland Avenue Apartments face Fifth Avenue and Highland at the comer. We went in there
and were taken to what would seem like the basement, but it was really the first floor and was
very nicely arranged. The child was the daughter of the maintenance man of the apartment
complex. When we entered the apartment and saw the little girl, we realized that she was quite
ill. Sister Mary Felix said to the mother: "Do you mind ifl call Father Kennedy?" The mother
said: "No, but she isn't that sick." So, Sr. Mary Felix called Father and he came right away. The
mother told her husband that we felt Father Kennedy should come and bless her. We had their
other children, two sons in school. We asked if they had candles, which they did, but didn't have
any holy water. We sent one of the boys up to the church to get holy water. The mother took her
crucifix off her rosary and put it on the table. Father brought the Blessed Sacrament. He heard
the little girl's confession and anointed her. I heard him say to her: "Mary, when you see God,
tell him that Father Kennedy loves Him very much." Just as soon as we got in the door at the
convent, the call came that the little girl had died.
Next, I went to St. John the Baptist. Sister Aquinas O 'Brien was the Sister Servant. She was
also Principal of the High School. I don't know who was the Principal of the Grade School.
While I was there we had the nineteen thirty-six flood.
SMCM: What do you remember about the flood?
SAB: All I know is that I had an eye doctor appointment and Sister M. Alacoque McHale was
supposed to be my companion. It was in downtown Pittsburgh, but we couldn't get there because
there was too much water. By the time we got back to St. John's the electricity had been turned
off, so we didn't have any heat. Then Father Wrigley opened up what they had that were like
Quansett Huts for the High School. We brought in the children from around Butler Street
because they were :flooded. They were all Negro. We brought them in and put blankets around
them as they were without clothing. They kept them in what we called the "Ark." Sister M.
Hildebert Mudler, Sister M. Honora Steiner, and a couple of other Sisters went over and cleaned
the place. I think the Army brought in some cots. Some of the adults were there also. I believe
she said they were there for a week. There was a fire built in the place, so it was nice and warm.
Every morning a great, big sailor came to the door with a bucket of prunes. I'll never forget it.
Sr. Hildebert and Sr. Honora did the cooking. I'm going to tell you, I've never found more
courteous men than those Negro men. They would not let us pick up a broom. We had them
there for several days.
SMCM: How long did this last?
SAB: I guess it was about two or three days, maybe a week. All of the schools were closed.
There wasn't any heat. It was quite a while before the waters went down. They couldn't get into
their homes while the water was going down, because their homes were full of dirt, etc. I

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remember Father brought a white man in who was very ill. Father put a screen around him
because he had pneumonia. Father Wrigley anointed him there and then had him sent up to St.
Francis H ospital. He died. After the flood was over, the people went back to their own homes
and we lost track of them.
SMCM Did the flood water destroy anything in the school?
SAB: No, the water didn't come up that high. The water came up to about the old Iron City
Brewery. Some of the parents couldn't find their children. The Sisters helped to find them.
SAB: At the end of the year, I went to Seton H ill. When the mission list was read out, I wasn't
missioned. I spent a few unholy hours as they were looking for an "Angel" for the Academy,
and I didn't want to be it. Finally, Sister Marie Cecily Chartener was chosen to be the Angel.
So, l was relieved. I met Mother Rose Genevieve in the hall and she said: "Can't you find
anywhere to go?" Go over to see Sister M. Eucharia O'Hagan and get a college schedule. I was
very fortunate in that I got my full college in at Seton Hill without interruption.
SMCM: How many years did it take you to do that?
SAB: Well, I did have some college work. I lost almost two years of work. I had to start all
over again. I was put in to science. The educational courses you had to have, I had. I graduated
in nineteen forty.
SMCM: Sister, where did you get the previous college work?
SAB: I got it at Seton Hill and by going to Saturday classes. We had to go all the way to St.
Peter's on North Side and to St. John's, Liberty Avenue.
SMCM: Sister, St. Peter's North Side, Saturday School. Was that taught by our Sisters?
SAB: No, the lay teachers from Seton Hill helped out.
SMCM: That's the frrst time I ever heard that.
SMCM: So, were your credits all from Seton Hill College?
SAB: No, after I finished my High School in the Academy, and my College work at Seton Hill, I
was sent to the University of Pittsburgh.· I received a Master's Degree in Science in nineteen
forty-three. In nineteen fifty-three, I was sent to St. Mary's Notre Dame, where I received a
Master's Degree in Theology in nineteen fifty-five. I had a National Science Fellowship to the
University of Notre Dame. I was there for three summers. Then in nineteen forty, I went to St.
James West End for eight years. I was in science from that time on.
SMCM: What kind of science?
SAB: When you started out in the parish schools, you taught all three sciences. When you.
taught Chemistry and Physics, you taught the whole works. If you didn't have enough, you also
taught Math. You had a full schedule.
At West End, Sister Irma Sullivan was there. I remember that we taught in the day time and
went out visiting in the evening after School up through Elliott and those places. Those older
Sisters really went out.. ..visiting the sick, going to the poor, etc. Very rarely were they not out
after school.
SMCM: What did you do on these visits?
SAB: Most often, she did most of the work. I was just tagging along. Sister Mary Eunice Clark
used to collect things for the people we visited. Mother Maria Benedict Monahan was Principal
at St. James High School. She was an excellent school woman and was very fair.

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SAB: After my stay in the West End, I was sent to St. Luke's in Carnegie.
SMCM: Was this in the High School?
SAB: Yes, my teaching now was all in the High School. While at St. Luke's, Sister Rosalie
O'Hara, Sister Mary Reginald Farrell, and I went to Oakdale every Saturday to teach Sunday
School. We caught the eight o'clock bus on Main Street and taught until two o'clock. Every
Sunday, Sister M. Joanna Gleason and Sister Mary Helen Meyer went to Morganza.
SMCM: Where did you teach when you went to Oakdale?
SAB: It was in the church. I believe the name of it was St. Patrick's. Sister Reginald Farrell
took care of the First Communion Class. I had children from third, fourth, and fifth grade. Then
Sr. Rosalie O'Hara taught the older children. There were a couple of young women who came to
our Community from the class Sr. Rosalie taught.
SMCM: Do you remember who they are?
SAB: [Unintelligible]
After St. Luke's, I was transferred to Sacred Heart in East Liberty.
SMCM: Was this your second time back at Sacred Heart?
SAB: Yes, this time it was to be in the High School. Sister Mary Helen Meyer and I had
Biology. Sister Francina Skergan taught the Physics. Sister Mary Helen and Sister Mary
Edmund Speer taught the Chemistry.
SMCM: What year was it when you went back to Sacred Heart?
SAB: I think it was nineteen fifty-four.
SMCM: Were the Sisters living on top of the school at that time?
SAB: Yes, we were living there. It was called a Penthouse. There were fifty Sisters there.
SMCM: Who was the Sister Servant?
SAB: Sr. Rose Vincent McNulty was the Sister Servant. Sister Marion McKelvy (formerly Sr.
Marie Magdalene) was Principal of the High School, and Sister Mary Donald Cusick was
Principal of the Grade School. Both of the schools were quite large. Of course, there were just
girls in the High School.
SAB: That brings us up to when I was transferred from Sacred Heart to Greensburg Central.
That was in nineteen seventy. I have been here ever since.
SMCM: Sister, is your specialty in science, mostly biology?
SAB: Well, yes, but I have taught all three sciences. I taught them until I came to Greensburg
Central. I also taught Religion until I came here.
Sr. Alexine OH 31-1 Tape I Side 2
Sister, would you tell us something about your first year in the Community?
SAB: I entered on November first. Sr. Alberta Sweeney entered with me. We received the habit
on February second. Then the following September, we were given the black cap.We taught at
St. Benedict's as novices. In the evening, we had classes.

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Sister Marita Murphy was teaching us singing. It was a hot day. There were no screens on the
windows. The next classroom was across from the novitiate, which is now the present day
Community Room at Seton Hill. The June bugs were getting in. The Sister on the end caught
the June bugs and passed them along, and we threw them out in the hall. Then we started
giggling. Sister Marita reported us to Mother Mary Francis who was the Mistress then. The next
morning, Mother Mary Francis called everybody, even we who were going to St. Benedict's. She
asked every person down the line what they were doing. We were perfectly alright until the
German Sisters began to talk in their broken English. The giggling began. Mother Mary Francis
put the whole novitiate in silence for a full day. She asked Mother Rose Genevieve to give the
other Sisters recreation during the noon and evening meals. The rest ofus had to sit in silence.
So we called it "The June Bug Retreat!"
SMCM: Sister, What did the German Sisters do?
SAB: They had classes for them. Sister Teresa Clare taught them English, Sr. Mary Felix taught
them how to read. Otherwise, they worked like we did...in the kitchen, the scullery. They didn't
do the hallways. We had to do all ofthem. We also worked in the Infirmary. The Infirmary
was the fourth floor ofSt. Joseph's Hall. Sister Margretta Bernlohr, one ofthe German Sisters,
worked in the Infirmary.
SMCM: What was your charge as a Novice?
SAB: Mostly, I worked down in the Mens' Dining Room.
SMCM: Where was their Dining Room?
SAB: It was part ofthe kitchen, which was located on the first floor ofthe Administration
Building. I also had the Priests' Dining Room for a while. Sister Mary Leonard Bums was in
charge.
SMCM: Who were the priests at that time?
SAB: Father Sullivan was there when I first went there. After he died, Father Reeves came. Dr.
Reeves (Father) was President ofthe College while I was there.
SMCM: Sister, can you tell me who the Mother Superior and Council were when you entered?
SAB: When I first entered, Mother Mary Raymond Creed was the Mother Superior, but I entered
in November and she died the following March. The Council members were: Sister M.
Victorine Ellsworth, Sister Jane Elizabeth Smith, and Sister Rose Vincent McNulty, who was the
Assistant Mother.

SMCM: Do you remember any ofthe senior Sisters who were at Seton Hill during your
Novitiate?
SAB: I remember the old nurse, Sister M. Justina Stevens. You didn't have to read your mail,
because she always read your cards for you. Ifshe met you in the hall, and you had received a
card, she would say: "You received a card, and they want you to know this......!" Sisters M.
Liguori and Mary Agnes Gillespie were there. Sister Francis Joseph Malloy was there too. She
was also with me at St. James in the West End.

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SMCM: Who was the Infirmarian at that time?
SAB: Sister Grace Barr was in charge ofthe Infirmary. She was the only one. Ofcourse, Sister
Alberta Sweeney had full charge ofSister Marion Stephen, who required constant care as she
was so crippled. Sister M. Estelle Hensler was the senior Novice.
SMCM: Sister, where did you live as a Novice?
SAB: We were on the Fourth Floor ofthe Administration Building. First, we were on the Sixth
Floor, but there was a problem with the water. It would freeze up.
SMCM: Did you serve in the Dining Room?
SAB: The Novices always served the entire year. The older Sisters were always interested in
you. They would ask you, who you were, where you were from, etc. You never meet the young
Sisters now. You never see them. In fact, I don't even know ifthey are Sisters or not when I do
meet them. At that time, you knew the Community was one! We had lots offun. We used to go
sled riding down the main road. We borrowed the sleds which were used by the girls in the
Academy.
SMCM: Were there any other Sisters in the Novitiate who had to finish their High School in the
Academy?
SAB: There was another Sister, but I forget who it was.
SMCM: What did you do for recreation besides sled riding?
SAB: We had plays, I guess you would call them dumb, little things. We enjoyed each
other....did lots oflaughing. In the summer, we were near the Grotto and we could use the whole
lot to play ball or whatever. We had apple peeling sessions which were enjoyable. We peeled
vegetables for the next day.
SMCM: What did they do with the apples?
SAB: Sister Francis Joseph Malloy made applesauce. Sister had a very large vat. We took our
turns stirring it. We also picked strawberries which were down over the hill where Havey Hall
now stands. When I first entered, there was a lake down by the road. It had boats on. The
Sisters used to go out to catch frogs for the biology lab. You only went at night, because you
used a flashlight to bring them out.
When we went home in the summers we taught Sunday School. Sister Alberta. Sister Rose
Marie Schneider, I and there was a fourth person left Seton Hill at six o'clock in the morning on
Sundays. We went out to Avonmore for Mass, taught Sunday School at Avonmore, had a little
lunch there, broke up, and two went to Tintown, two to Saltzburg, and someone went to Kiski.
When I was at the college, we went out every Saturday. Sisters M. Maurice and Mary Thaddeus
McManama, Sister Helen Cecilia Dwyer and I went over to West Newton. We broke up in the
afternoon and went to a tiny place called Reduction.
SMCM: How did you travel to these places?
SAB: The Sisters didn't drive then, so someone from the parish or sometimes the priests would
come for us and bring us home. One time a man from West Newton was transporting us. When
we were returning home, another car forced us off the road. The car rolled over. We had to
crawl out the top ofthe car.
SMCM: Was anyone hurt?
SAB: No, the driver was able then to get the car righted.

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SMCM: Sister, were you ever involved in teaching any ofour Sisters in the Extension Courses
which we had?
SAB: Yes, I taught in the Summer Sessions for about twenty-two years at Seton Hill. It was an
eight week course for some ofour Sisters. The courses ran from eight o'clock in the morning
until one o'clock in the afternoon.
When I was at Sacred Heart, I believe it was Sister Brigid Marie Grantley and I went to the Hill
District to teach the Negro children at the House ofMary a couple ofevenings a week. Sister
Marcella Mary Burgunder came for us. We left the dinner table in order to begin tutoring the
children at six PM for about two hours. I taught them Chemistry, and Sr. Brigid Marie taught
them English.
SMCM: Who would you say was influential in your becoming a Sister ofCharity?
SAB: I think there were two things. Remember, I told you the story ofFather Kelty being with
me when my father died. For me, the sun rose and set on my father. I believe the association I
had with Father Kelty, and just being around the Sisters greatly influenced me to become a Sister
ofCharity.
SMCM: Would you like to make any comments on the changes in the Community?
SAB: I think we needed to change. I'm not so sure that the drastic change we have gone through
was necessary. I can't go along with Sisters saying we have a lack ofvocations because ofthe
times. The Felicians, The Daughters of St. Paul are getting them by the hundreds. Something is
missing! I don't know what it is.
SMCM: How have you been able to adjust to our new prayers?
SAB: I'm glad we changed to the Office, because it is the prayer ofthe Church. Ifthe Church
tells me to do something, I will do it, but I cannot take everyone's innovations. Some people
decide we should do this or that. I can't swallow that. When the Church tells you to do
something, do it, but not overdo it. I'm just wondering ifwe are not getting vocations because
we are not religious enough. We have to be different, and I don't think we are too different from
the secular teachers we're working with!
[Unintelligible]
SAB: I retired from the actual classroom teaching at Geensburg Catholic in nineteen eighty-six.
The student body gave me a marvelous send off. They were having Honors Day, the day the
students get their awards. We don't give them on Graduation Night because it takes too long.
SAB: I remember on Graduation Night, Sister M. Germaine Helwig was beside me and when the
Procession came in, behind Father Booklighter, the Ministers at the Altar, Sr. Donna Marie
Lyden, Principal, etc., there was Bishop Connare. I said to Sr. Germaine: "What is he doing
here?" She said: "I really don't know?" Then she said: "They're talking about you. Get up
there!" I walked up. I never heard such an ovation in all my life. Everyone stood up and
clapped. Every class gave me something. I ended up with eight hundred dollars. The lay
faculty gave me a check for sixty-five dollars and my own department had a dinner for me out at
Mountain View Inn, and they gave me about sixty dollars.
Bishop Connare gave a nice talk. I said to him: "Well, I started my teaching in the Greensburg

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Diocese and am ending it in the Greensburg Diocese." He said: "Sister, you started in the
Greensburg Diocese, but you're not ending it now." Right now, I have a research group of about
fifteen youngsters. I wanted to get them out of the text book into doing the actual work.
I have to take them at their own time...on their study periods, etc. The first part of the course I
taught them how to use all the apparatus....machines, spectroscope, how to take proper
measurements, etc. Now this semester, they are doing their own research because they know
how to use everything. Sister Ann lnfanger supplies them with flies.
SMCM: Does that take your whole day?
SAB: Yes, it takes my entire day. They're doing their research now. I'm teaching them the
proper way to record and be sure that things are left in order for the next person. I'm having
them write a Research Paper as it should be written by a true Research S cientist. They must be
turned in to me the first week in May.
SMCM: Do you enjoy doing this kind of work?
SAB: Yes, I do and they get a half of a credit for it. That's my day.

Tape II Side I
SMCM: This is a continuation of an interview being conducted as part of the Oral History
Program of the Sisters of Charity of Seton Hill. The interviewee is Sister Alexine Beam. The
interview is being conducted by Sister Marie Corona Miller at the Greensburg Faculty House.
The date isJanuary twenty-ninth, nineteen eighty-S even. Good afternoon, S ister. We're at it
again. I think we're going to add some footnotes about the works that you have done in the line
of science and the recognition that has been given to you as a Teacher of the S ciences. Would
you like to share some of those with us?
SAB: The first was a Teacher's Certification from the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. That
was for the outstanding Science Teacher of the state. The second was from the Biology
Teacher's Association Award.Then I had the H.J. Heinz Company,Jones and Laughlin Steel,
The Master Brewers, The Medical Society, The Veterans of Foreign Wars, The United States Air
Force, and The Analytic Chemists S ociety. I also had some publications. They were large group
discussions, which were published in "TheJournal of Catholic Education," and "The
Pennsylvania Catholic EducationalJournal." There were publications on the teaching of
Biology in "The Catholic Educator." I have made or published over eight hundred transparencies
in Biology.
SMCM: Sister, what is on these transparencies?
SAB: They cover the entire biology course. There are drawings, graphs, diagrams, various
things, etc. The public schools in Pittsburgh use these transparencies.
SMCM: Sister, in order to get these awards, what did you have to do?
SAB: The biology teachers in the state had to submit their entire academic background, their
years of teaching, what you taught, and people came and observed your teaching. They looked at
all of your work.... .like the transparencies. They went all through them.

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SMCM: What about the award from the United States Air Force? How.did that come about?
SAB: Pretty much the same way. The Veterans of Foreign Wars first had a meeting. I think
Sister Mary Eudes Clougherty came to the meeting also. They gave the award to the outstanding
teacher. They sent you a list of questions to answer. You had to have people vouch for
you....like I had the Superintendent of Schools. Sister Marion McKelvy wrote on my behalf.
SMCM: Was science your choice, or were you selected for it?
SAB: I was selected for it. In those days, you didn't choose what you were going to teach.
SMCM: Do you intend to continue your work at Greensburg Central teaching research as long as
you can?
SAB: Yes, I would like to do that. I think it's better to keep going and perhaps be of some use to
somebody.
SMCM: Is there anything else you would like to tell us?
SAB: No, I don't think so. This group I have now are all Research Scientists. One is up in
Buffalo, New York doing cancer research. She's a graduate of Seton Hill, by the way. I have
others doing research in other places.
SMCM: Sister, thank you for giving me your time and so much wonderful, valuable information.
The Community is grateful.

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· TOH 31 - 1 Sr. Alexine Beam &#13;
This interview is being conducted as part of the Oral History Program of the Sisters of Charity &#13;
at Seton Hill. The interviewee is Sister M. Alexine Beam. The interview is being conducted by &#13;
Sister Marie Corona Miller at Greensburg Faculty House. The date is January twenty-ninth, &#13;
nineteen eighty-seven. &#13;
SMCM: Good morning Sr. Alexine! I'm happy to be with you today to talk about your personal &#13;
history and your history as a Sister of Charity. Would you like to tell us some things? &#13;
SAB: I was born in Allegheny General Hospital on February twentieth, nineteen seven, the oldest &#13;
of three children. I have a sister, Hilda, who is thirteen months younger, and a brother, William, &#13;
who is three years younger. My father was not a Catholic, so I was raised in a semi-Catholic, &#13;
Lutheran environment. My mother ruled our religion. My father's people were definitely &#13;
Lutheran. I remember my father coming home one time with papers to become a Mason. At that &#13;
time, Masons were very hostile toward the Catholic religion. I was only about four years old, but &#13;
I remember them talking in the living room. We had a big coal fire in the living room. They &#13;
were talking so seriously. Being curious, I needed warmed up in there. He had a paper in his &#13;
hand, and he said: "Kitty, (that's what he called my mother), my brothers are all Masons, and I'd &#13;
like to join." She took the paper and she said: "George Beam, select now between me or the &#13;
Masons. You know they have no love for my religion." He walked over to the coal fire and &#13;
threw the paper in. &#13;
SAB: There was no Catholic School in Crafton at the time when we moved there. My sister, &#13;
brother, and I had to go to the public school for the frrst couple of years. St. Philip's was built in &#13;
nineteen sixteen, but my Dad died that year. I was only nine years old. My mother had three of &#13;
us to raise. My grandfather really raised us. &#13;
SMCM: Was that your father's father? &#13;
SAB No, it was my mother's father. My father's people were not very close. I wouldn't say that &#13;
they didn't love us. In those days, where there were two religions, they were diametrically &#13;
opposed to one another. His father was wonderful. He loved us, and we loved him. His mother &#13;
did not like my mother at all. There was no love lost between them. Even when my Dad died, &#13;
they didn't come down to our home. In those days, the body was brought to the home, not the &#13;
funeral home. His parents did not come the night before the funeral. I want to tell something &#13;
very interesting. I was only nine years old. My Aunt Annie came and kept house for us while &#13;
my mother was at the hospital. A call came late (couldn't determine when as there was a loud &#13;
crashing sound) that my Dad was dying, so my mother and my Aunt Annie went to the hospital, &#13;
but when they got there, he was already dead. They were going to bring his body home that &#13;
evening about four o'clock. Father Kelty came up to the house. He went up and sat beside my &#13;
mother, who was in bed, as she had been up all night. They brought Dad's body home. Father &#13;
Kelty took me by one hand and put his arm around my mother. I never forgot that man. He &#13;
stayed with her until she cried out completely. &#13;
SMCM: Was Father Kelty pastor at St. Philip's at that time? &#13;
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SAB: Yes, he was. &#13;
Then we went to St. Philip's School. My mother had us transferred from the public school to St. &#13;
Philip's. I had some marvelous teachers. I had Sister Hyacinthe Ryan, who was an absolute &#13;
perfect teacher. Then there was Sister M. Adele McCullough, Sister Francis de Sales Connelly &#13;
II, Sister M. Dorothy Hess, Sister Generosa, and Sister Sara Fidelis Boyle was the eighth grade &#13;
teacher. &#13;
I went to St. James High School. I switched from the Academic to Commercial. I didn't like &#13;
the Commercial Course. I went to the first day of the "commercial", but it was not for me. In &#13;
going home, I just stayed on the streetcar, and went all the way home to Father Kelty. I told him I &#13;
didn't know what I was going to do because I didn't want Commercial work. He said to me: &#13;
"Well, are you sure you want to become a Sister?" I was surprised he even thought I was &#13;
thinking about it. So, he sent me over to Sister M. Aquinas O'Brien, who was the Sister Servant. &#13;
She took me over and talked to me. She took me to Seton Hill and I entered November first, &#13;
nineteen twenty-three. I had not finished High School, but did complete it at the Academy. &#13;
Sister Theodosia Murtha and Sister Anne Elizabeth Regan were also at the Academy. There &#13;
were others, but I've forgotten their names. &#13;
SMCM: Who entered with you? &#13;
SAB: Sister Alberta Sweeney entered with me. We got the habit on the second of February. The &#13;
following September, both ofus were sent to St. Benedict's to teach. I was very frightened, as I &#13;
was just seventeen at the time. Sister Charlotte Judge taught the sixth or eighth grade. She came &#13;
down to my classroom once or twice everyday to show me how to teach. We had on the job &#13;
training. She showed me how to teach Reading and Arithmetic. &#13;
SMCM: What grade was that? &#13;
SAB: It was First Grade. We were Novices. Sister M. Clarissa Cunningham was there too. In &#13;
those days, we walked to school. &#13;
SMCM: From Seton Hill? &#13;
SAB: Yes, from Seton Hill. We walked every day. The only time we didn't walk was ifit was &#13;
raining too hard. &#13;
SMCM: How long did it take you to walk to school? &#13;
SAB: It took about fifteen minutes, except when there was snow. Being young people, we took &#13;
our time in the snow, and of course, we were wet when we got there. We did get a ride home &#13;
from school everyday. &#13;
SAB: Then I was sent to Sharpsburg. &#13;
SMCM: What was the name of the parish? &#13;
SAB: It was St. Joseph's Parish. I was there for a couple of years and was then transferred to the &#13;
old Sacred Heart down on Center Avenue. I had first grade there. Sister Mary Felix Clarey was &#13;
there. She helped in guiding me what to do in my teaching. I had some very good teachers when &#13;
I first started out. They really showed you how to do it correctly the first time. &#13;
SMCM: So, you stayed in primary? &#13;
SAB: I was in the primary department for fourteen years. &#13;
SMCM: What grade did Sr. Mary Felix have? &#13;
SAB: Sr. Mary Felix had third grade, and I had frrst. We had two frrst grades, because we had &#13;
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about one hundred children. Sister Mary Hugh Bridge had one, and I had the other. I think we &#13;
had two sessions, because we had forty or fifty children at a time in each session. &#13;
SMCM: Did you have that many seats in your classroom? &#13;
SAB: No, we had to divide the class in half.. .. one session from nine AM until Noon, and a &#13;
second session from one PM until four PM. &#13;
Sister M. Victorine Ellsworth was Principal when I fust went to Sacred Heart. Sister Rose &#13;
Vincent McNulty replaced her. She was an excellent school woman. &#13;
Someone usually went out visiting in the evening. This particular evening, Sr. Mary Felix asked &#13;
me if I would go with her to visit a very sick child in the Highland A venue Apartments. The &#13;
Highland A venue Apartments face Fifth A venue and Highland at the comer. We went in there &#13;
and were taken to what would seem like the basement, but it was really the first floor and was &#13;
very nicely arranged. The child was the daughter of the maintenance man of the apartment &#13;
complex. When we entered the apartment and saw the little girl, we realized that she was quite &#13;
ill. Sister Mary Felix said to the mother: "Do you mind ifl call Father Kennedy?" The mother &#13;
said: "No, but she isn't that sick." So, Sr. Mary Felix called Father and he came right away. The &#13;
mother told her husband that we felt Father Kennedy should come and bless her. We had their &#13;
other children, two sons in school. We asked if they had candles, which they did, but didn't have &#13;
any holy water. We sent one of the boys up to the church to get holy water. The mother took her &#13;
crucifix off her rosary and put it on the table. Father brought the Blessed Sacrament. He heard &#13;
the little girl's confession and anointed her. I heard him say to her: "Mary, when you see God, &#13;
tell him that Father Kennedy loves Him very much." Just as soon as we got in the door at the &#13;
convent, the call came that the little girl had died. &#13;
Next, I went to St. John the Baptist. Sister Aquinas O'Brien was the Sister Servant. She was &#13;
also Principal of the High School. I don't know who was the Principal of the Grade School. &#13;
While I was there we had the nineteen thirty-six flood. &#13;
SMCM: What do you remember about the flood? &#13;
SAB: All I know is that I had an eye doctor appointment and Sister M. Alacoque McHale was &#13;
supposed to be my companion. It was in downtown Pittsburgh, but we couldn't get there because &#13;
there was too much water. By the time we got back to St. John's the electricity had been turned &#13;
off, so we didn't have any heat. Then Father Wrigley opened up what they had that were like &#13;
Quansett Huts for the High School. We brought in the children from around Butler Street &#13;
because they were :flooded. They were all Negro. We brought them in and put blankets around &#13;
them as they were without clothing. They kept them in what we called the "Ark." Sister M. &#13;
Hildebert Mudler, Sister M. Honora Steiner, and a couple of other Sisters went over and cleaned &#13;
the place. I think the Army brought in some cots. Some of the adults were there also. I believe &#13;
she said they were there for a week. There was a fire built in the place, so it was nice and warm. &#13;
Every morning a great, big sailor came to the door with a bucket of prunes. I'll never forget it. &#13;
Sr. Hildebert and Sr. Honora did the cooking. I'm going to tell you, I've never found more &#13;
courteous men than those Negro men. They would not let us pick up a broom. We had them &#13;
there for several days. &#13;
SMCM: How long did this last? &#13;
SAB: I guess it was about two or three days, maybe a week. All of the schools were closed. &#13;
There wasn't any heat. It was quite a while before the waters went down. They couldn't get into &#13;
their homes while the water was going down, because their homes were full of dirt, etc. I &#13;
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remember Father brought a white man in who was very ill. Father put a screen around him &#13;
because he had pneumonia. Father Wrigley anointed him there and then had him sent up to St. &#13;
Francis Hospital. He died. After the flood was over, the people went back to their own homes &#13;
and we lost track of them. &#13;
SMCM Did the flood water destroy anything in the school? &#13;
SAB: No, the water didn't come up that high. The water came up to about the old Iron City &#13;
Brewery. Some of the parents couldn't find their children. The Sisters helped to find them. &#13;
SAB: At the end of the year, I went to Seton Hill. When the mission list was read out, I wasn't &#13;
missioned. I spent a few unholy hours as they were looking for an "Angel" for the Academy, &#13;
and I didn't want to be it. Finally, Sister Marie Cecily Chartener was chosen to be the Angel. &#13;
So, l was relieved. I met Mother Rose Genevieve in the hall and she said: "Can't you find &#13;
anywhere to go?" Go over to see Sister M. Eucharia O'Hagan and get a college schedule. I was &#13;
very fortunate in that I got my full college in at Seton Hill without interruption. &#13;
SMCM: How many years did it take you to do that? &#13;
SAB: Well, I did have some college work. I lost almost two years of work. I had to start all &#13;
over again. I was put in to science. The educational courses you had to have, I had. I graduated &#13;
in nineteen forty. &#13;
SMCM: Sister, where did you get the previous college work? &#13;
SAB: I got it at Seton Hill and by going to Saturday classes. We had to go all the way to St. &#13;
Peter's on North Side and to St. John's, Liberty Avenue. &#13;
SMCM: Sister, St. Peter's North Side, Saturday School. Was that taught by our Sisters? &#13;
SAB: No, the lay teachers from Seton Hill helped out. &#13;
SMCM: That's the frrst time I ever heard that. &#13;
SMCM: So, were your credits all from Seton Hill College? &#13;
SAB: No, after I finished my High School in the Academy, and my College work at Seton Hill, I &#13;
was sent to the University of Pittsburgh.· I received a Master's Degree in Science in nineteen &#13;
forty-three. In nineteen fifty-three, I was sent to St. Mary's Notre Dame, where I received a &#13;
Master's Degree in Theology in nineteen fifty-five. I had a National Science Fellowship to the &#13;
University of Notre Dame. I was there for three summers. Then in nineteen forty, I went to St. &#13;
James West End for eight years. I was in science from that time on. &#13;
SMCM: What kind of science? &#13;
SAB: When you started out in the parish schools, you taught all three sciences. When you. &#13;
taught Chemistry and Physics, you taught the whole works. If you didn't have enough, you also &#13;
taught Math. You had a full schedule. &#13;
At West End, Sister Irma Sullivan was there. I remember that we taught in the day time and &#13;
went out visiting in the evening after School up through Elliott and those places. Those older &#13;
Sisters really went out.. .. visiting the sick, going to the poor, etc. Very rarely were they not out &#13;
after school. &#13;
SMCM: What did you do on these visits? &#13;
SAB: Most often, she did most of the work. I was just tagging along. Sister Mary Eunice Clark &#13;
used to collect things for the people we visited. Mother Maria Benedict Monahan was Principal &#13;
at St. James High School. She was an excellent school woman and was very fair. &#13;
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SAB: After my stay in the West End, I was sent to St. Luke's in Carnegie. &#13;
SMCM: Was this in the High School? &#13;
SAB: Yes, my teaching now was all in the High School. While at St. Luke's, Sister Rosalie &#13;
O'Hara, Sister Mary Reginald Farrell, and I went to Oakdale every Saturday to teach Sunday &#13;
School. We caught the eight o'clock bus on Main Street and taught until two o'clock. Every &#13;
Sunday, Sister M. Joanna Gleason and Sister Mary Helen Meyer went to Morganza. &#13;
SMCM: Where did you teach when you went to Oakdale? &#13;
SAB: It was in the church. I believe the name of it was St. Patrick's. Sister Reginald Farrell &#13;
took care of the First Communion Class. I had children from third, fourth, and fifth grade. Then &#13;
Sr. Rosalie O'Hara taught the older children. There were a couple of young women who came to &#13;
our Community from the class Sr. Rosalie taught. &#13;
SMCM: Do you remember who they are? &#13;
SAB: [Unintelligible] &#13;
After St. Luke's, I was transferred to Sacred Heart in East Liberty. &#13;
SMCM: Was this your second time back at Sacred Heart? &#13;
SAB: Yes, this time it was to be in the High School. Sister Mary Helen Meyer and I had &#13;
Biology. Sister Francina Skergan taught the Physics. Sister Mary Helen and Sister Mary &#13;
Edmund Speer taught the Chemistry. &#13;
SMCM: What year was it when you went back to Sacred Heart? &#13;
SAB: I think it was nineteen fifty-four. &#13;
SMCM: Were the Sisters living on top of the school at that time? &#13;
SAB: Yes, we were living there. It was called a Penthouse. There were fifty Sisters there. &#13;
SMCM: Who was the Sister Servant? &#13;
SAB: Sr. Rose Vincent McNulty was the Sister Servant. Sister Marion McKelvy (formerly Sr. &#13;
Marie Magdalene) was Principal of the High School, and Sister Mary Donald Cusick was &#13;
Principal of the Grade School. Both of the schools were quite large. Of course, there were just &#13;
girls in the High School. &#13;
SAB: That brings us up to when I was transferred from Sacred Heart to Greensburg Central. &#13;
That was in nineteen seventy. I have been here ever since. &#13;
SMCM: Sister, is your specialty in science, mostly biology? &#13;
SAB: Well, yes, but I have taught all three sciences. I taught them until I came to Greensburg &#13;
Central. I also taught Religion until I came here. &#13;
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Sister, would you tell us something about your first year in the Community? &#13;
SAB: I entered on November first. Sr. Alberta Sweeney entered with me. We received the habit &#13;
on February second. Then the following September, we were given the black cap.We taught at &#13;
St. Benedict's as novices. In the evening, we had classes. &#13;
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Sister Marita Murphy was teaching us singing. It was a hot day. There were no screens on the &#13;
windows. The next classroom was across from the novitiate, which is now the present day &#13;
Community Room at Seton Hill. The June bugs were getting in. The Sister on the end caught &#13;
the June bugs and passed them along, and we threw them out in the hall. Then we started &#13;
giggling. Sister Marita reported us to Mother Mary Francis who was the Mistress then. The next &#13;
morning, Mother Mary Francis called everybody, even we who were going to St. Benedict's. She &#13;
asked every person down the line what they were doing. We were perfectly alright until the &#13;
German Sisters began to talk in their broken English. The giggling began. Mother Mary Francis &#13;
put the whole novitiate in silence for a full day. She asked Mother Rose Genevieve to give the &#13;
other Sisters recreation during the noon and evening meals. The rest ofus had to sit in silence. &#13;
So we called it "The June Bug Retreat!" &#13;
SMCM: Sister, What did the German Sisters do? &#13;
SAB: They had classes for them. Sister Teresa Clare taught them English, Sr. Mary Felix taught &#13;
them how to read. Otherwise, they worked like we did .. .in the kitchen, the scullery. They didn't &#13;
do the hallways. We had to do all of them. We also worked in the Infirmary. The Infirmary &#13;
was the fourth floor of St. Joseph's Hall. Sister Margretta Bernlohr, one of the German Sisters, &#13;
worked in the Infirmary. &#13;
SMCM: What was your charge as a Novice? &#13;
SAB: Mostly, I worked down in the Mens' Dining Room. &#13;
SMCM: Where was their Dining Room? &#13;
SAB: It was part of the kitchen, which was located on the first floor of the Administration &#13;
Building. I also had the Priests' Dining Room for a while. Sister Mary Leonard Bums was in &#13;
charge. &#13;
SMCM: Who were the priests at that time? &#13;
SAB: Father Sullivan was there when I first went there. After he died, Father Reeves came. Dr. &#13;
Reeves (Father) was President of the College while I was there. &#13;
SMCM: Sister, can you tell me who the Mother Superior and Council were when you entered? &#13;
SAB: When I first entered, Mother Mary Raymond Creed was the Mother Superior, but I entered &#13;
in November and she died the following March. The Council members were: Sister M. &#13;
Victorine Ellsworth, Sister Jane Elizabeth Smith, and Sister Rose Vincent McNulty, who was the &#13;
Assistant Mother. &#13;
SMCM: Do you remember any of the senior Sisters who were at Seton Hill during your &#13;
Novitiate? &#13;
SAB: I remember the old nurse, Sister M. Justina Stevens. You didn't have to read your mail, &#13;
because she always read your cards for you. If she met you in the hall, and you had received a &#13;
card, she would say: "You received a card, and they want you to know this ...... !" Sisters M. &#13;
Liguori and Mary Agnes Gillespie were there. Sister Francis Joseph Malloy was there too. She &#13;
was also with me at St. James in the West End. &#13;
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SMCM: Who was the Infirmarian at that time? &#13;
SAB: Sister Grace Barr was in charge of the Infirmary. She was the only one. Of course, Sister &#13;
Alberta Sweeney had full charge of Sister Marion Stephen, who required constant care as she &#13;
was so crippled. Sister M. Estelle Hensler was the senior Novice. &#13;
SMCM: Sister, where did you live as a Novice? &#13;
SAB: We were on the Fourth Floor of the Administration Building. First, we were on the Sixth &#13;
Floor, but there was a problem with the water. It would freeze up. &#13;
SMCM: Did you serve in the Dining Room? &#13;
SAB: The Novices always served the entire year. The older Sisters were always interested in &#13;
you. They would ask you, who you were, where you were from, etc. You never meet the young &#13;
Sisters now. You never see them. In fact, I don't even know if they are Sisters or not when I do &#13;
meet them. At that time, you knew the Community was one! We had lots of fun. We used to go &#13;
sled riding down the main road. We borrowed the sleds which were used by the girls in the &#13;
Academy. &#13;
SMCM: Were there any other Sisters in the Novitiate who had to finish their High School in the &#13;
Academy? &#13;
SAB: There was another Sister, but I forget who it was. &#13;
SMCM: What did you do for recreation besides sled riding? &#13;
SAB: We had plays, I guess you would call them dumb, little things. We enjoyed each &#13;
other. ... did lots oflaughing. In the summer, we were near the Grotto and we could use the whole &#13;
lot to play ball or whatever. We had apple peeling sessions which were enjoyable. We peeled &#13;
vegetables for the next day. &#13;
SMCM: What did they do with the apples? &#13;
SAB: Sister Francis Joseph Malloy made applesauce. Sister had a very large vat. We took our &#13;
turns stirring it. We also picked strawberries which were down over the hill where Havey Hall &#13;
now stands. When I first entered, there was a lake down by the road. It had boats on. The &#13;
Sisters used to go out to catch frogs for the biology lab. You only went at night, because you &#13;
used a flashlight to bring them out. &#13;
When we went home in the summers we taught Sunday School. Sister Alberta. Sister Rose &#13;
Marie Schneider, I and there was a fourth person left Seton Hill at six o'clock in the morning on &#13;
Sundays. We went out to Avonmore for Mass, taught Sunday School at Avonmore, had a little &#13;
lunch there, broke up, and two went to Tintown, two to Saltzburg, and someone went to Kiski. &#13;
When I was at the college, we went out every Saturday. Sisters M. Maurice and Mary Thaddeus &#13;
McManama, Sister Helen Cecilia Dwyer and I went over to West Newton. We broke up in the &#13;
afternoon and went to a tiny place called Reduction. &#13;
SMCM: How did you travel to these places? &#13;
SAB: The Sisters didn't drive then, so someone from the parish or sometimes the priests would &#13;
come for us and bring us home. One time a man from West Newton was transporting us. When &#13;
we were returning home, another car forced us off the road. The car rolled over. We had to &#13;
crawl out the top of the car. &#13;
SMCM: Was anyone hurt? &#13;
SAB: No, the driver was able then to get the car righted. &#13;
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SMCM: Sister, were you ever involved in teaching any of our Sisters in the Extension Courses &#13;
which we had? &#13;
SAB: Yes, I taught in the Summer Sessions for about twenty-two years at Seton Hill. It was an &#13;
eight week course for some of our Sisters. The courses ran from eight o'clock in the morning &#13;
until one o'clock in the afternoon. &#13;
When I was at Sacred Heart, I believe it was Sister Brigid Marie Grantley and I went to the Hill &#13;
District to teach the Negro children at the House of Mary a couple of evenings a week. Sister &#13;
Marcella Mary Burgunder came for us. We left the dinner table in order to begin tutoring the &#13;
children at six PM for about two hours. I taught them Chemistry, and Sr. Brigid Marie taught &#13;
them English. &#13;
SMCM: Who would you say was influential in your becoming a Sister of Charity? &#13;
SAB: I think there were two things. Remember, I told you the story of Father Kelty being with &#13;
me when my father died. For me, the sun rose and set on my father. I believe the association I &#13;
had with Father Kelty, and just being around the Sisters greatly influenced me to become a Sister &#13;
of Charity. &#13;
SMCM: Would you like to make any comments on the changes in the Community? &#13;
SAB: I think we needed to change. I'm not so sure that the drastic change we have gone through &#13;
was necessary. I can't go along with Sisters saying we have a lack of vocations because of the &#13;
times. The Felicians, The Daughters of St. Paul are getting them by the hundreds. Something is &#13;
missing! I don't know what it is. &#13;
SMCM: How have you been able to adjust to our new prayers? &#13;
SAB: I'm glad we changed to the Office, because it is the prayer of the Church. If the Church &#13;
tells me to do something, I will do it, but I cannot take everyone's innovations. Some people &#13;
decide we should do this or that. I can't swallow that. When the Church tells you to do &#13;
something, do it, but not overdo it. I'm just wondering ifwe are not getting vocations because &#13;
we are not religious enough. We have to be different, and I don't think we are too different from &#13;
the secular teachers we're working with! &#13;
[Unintelligible] &#13;
SAB: I retired from the actual classroom teaching at Geensburg Catholic in nineteen eighty-six. &#13;
The student body gave me a marvelous send off. They were having Honors Day, the day the &#13;
students get their awards. We don't give them on Graduation Night because it takes too long. &#13;
SAB: I remember on Graduation Night, Sister M. Germaine Helwig was beside me and when the &#13;
Procession came in, behind Father Booklighter, the Ministers at the Altar, Sr. Donna Marie &#13;
Lyden, Principal, etc., there was Bishop Connare. I said to Sr. Germaine: "What is he doing &#13;
here?" She said: "I really don't know?" Then she said: "They're talking about you. Get up &#13;
there!" I walked up. I never heard such an ovation in all my life. Everyone stood up and &#13;
clapped. Every class gave me something. I ended up with eight hundred dollars. The lay &#13;
faculty gave me a check for sixty-five dollars and my own department had a dinner for me out at &#13;
Mountain View Inn, and they gave me about sixty dollars. &#13;
Bishop Connare gave a nice talk. I said to him: "Well, I started my teaching in the Greensburg &#13;
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Diocese and am ending it in the Greensburg Diocese." He said: "Sister, you started in the &#13;
Greensburg Diocese, but you're not ending it now." Right now, I have a research group of about &#13;
fifteen youngsters. I wanted to get them out of the text book into doing the actual work. &#13;
I have to take them at their own time ... on their study periods, etc. The first part of the course I &#13;
taught them how to use all the apparatus .... machines, spectroscope, how to take proper &#13;
measurements, etc. Now this semester, they are doing their own research because they know &#13;
how to use everything. Sister Ann lnfanger supplies them with flies. &#13;
SMCM: Does that take your whole day? &#13;
SAB: Yes, it takes my entire day. They're doing their research now. I'm teaching them the &#13;
proper way to record and be sure that things are left in order for the next person. I'm having &#13;
them write a Research Paper as it should be written by a true Research Scientist. They must be &#13;
turned in to me the first week in May. &#13;
SMCM: Do you enjoy doing this kind of work? &#13;
SAB: Yes, I do and they get a half of a credit for it. That's my day. &#13;
Tape II Side I &#13;
SMCM: This is a continuation of an interview being conducted as part of the Oral History &#13;
Program of the Sisters of Charity of Seton Hill. The interviewee is Sister Alexine Beam. The &#13;
interview is being conducted by Sister Marie Corona Miller at the Greensburg Faculty House. &#13;
The date is January twenty-ninth, nineteen eighty-Seven. Good afternoon, Sister. We're at it &#13;
again. I think we're going to add some footnotes about the works that you have done in the line &#13;
of science and the recognition that has been given to you as a Teacher of the Sciences. Would &#13;
you like to share some of those with us? &#13;
SAB: The first was a Teacher's Certification from the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. That &#13;
was for the outstanding Science Teacher of the state. The second was from the Biology &#13;
Teacher's Association Award.Then I had the H.J. Heinz Company, Jones and Laughlin Steel, &#13;
The Master Brewers, The Medical Society, The Veterans of Foreign Wars, The United States Air &#13;
Force, and The Analytic Chemists Society. I also had some publications. They were large group &#13;
discussions, which were published in "The Journal of Catholic Education," and "The &#13;
Pennsylvania Catholic Educational Journal." There were publications on the teaching of &#13;
Biology in "The Catholic Educator." I have made or published over eight hundred transparencies &#13;
in Biology. &#13;
SMCM: Sister, what is on these transparencies? &#13;
SAB: They cover the entire biology course. There are drawings, graphs, diagrams, various &#13;
things, etc. The public schools in Pittsburgh use these transparencies. &#13;
SMCM: Sister, in order to get these awards, what did you have to do? &#13;
SAB: The biology teachers in the state had to submit their entire academic background, their &#13;
years of teaching, what you taught, and people came and observed your teaching. They looked at &#13;
all of your work .... .like the transparencies. They went all through them. &#13;
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SMCM: What about the award from the United States Air Force? How.did that come about? &#13;
SAB: Pretty much the same way. The Veterans of Foreign Wars first had a meeting. I think &#13;
Sister Mary Eudes Clougherty came to the meeting also. They gave the award to the outstanding &#13;
teacher. They sent you a list of questions to answer. You had to have people vouch for &#13;
you ... .like I had the Superintendent of Schools. Sister Marion McKelvy wrote on my behalf. &#13;
SMCM: Was science your choice, or were you selected for it? &#13;
SAB: I was selected for it. In those days, you didn't choose what you were going to teach. &#13;
SMCM: Do you intend to continue your work at Greensburg Central teaching research as long as &#13;
you can? &#13;
SAB: Yes, I would like to do that. I think it's better to keep going and perhaps be of some use to &#13;
somebody. &#13;
SMCM: Is there anything else you would like to tell us? &#13;
SAB: No, I don't think so. This group I have now are all Research Scientists. One is up in &#13;
Buffalo, New York doing cancer research. She's a graduate of Seton Hill, by the way. I have &#13;
others doing research in other places. &#13;
SMCM: Sister, thank you for giving me your time and so much wonderful, valuable information. &#13;
The Community is grateful. &#13;
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OH  62-1  Sr.RoselreneBoggs	Tape  I	Side I&#13;
This interview is being conducted as part of the oral history program of the Sisters of Charity of Seton Hill. The interviewee is Sister Rose Irene Boggs. The interviewer is Sister Marie Corona Miller at Seton Hill. The date is September twenty-fourth, Nineteen eighty-seven.&#13;
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SMCM: Good afternoon, Sister Rose Irene. Sister, I understand that today is your feast day, so I want to wish you a Happy Feast Day on this, The Feast of Our Lady of Mercy. I've come here today to talk about your life as a Sister of Charity.  Would you like to tell us when you were born and where?&#13;
SRIB: I was born in Wilkinsburg, Pennsylvania on September seventeenth, Nineteen Hundred Four. My parents were James and Mary Brycelyn(sounded like) Boggs. I was Baptized in St. James, in Wilkinsburg on October second, Nineteen Hundred Four, and received the name, Rose. In August of Nineteen Ten, I started School at St. James. My fust grade teacher was Sister M. Maurice McDermott. At that time, we had just a two room frame house building where we had the fust and second grade. They kept you in either first or second grade for two years.	Then, under the Church, there were four rooms. When I started to school, my sister Mary, was in the second grade. When it was time for promotion, they kept Mary in the second grade, and I was put in the second grade with her. I was in the "B" class, and she was in the "A" class. Sister Charles Regina Davis was our teacher in the second grade. One time, when Mary was at home because she had tonsilitis, Sister put another girl in the class, so that when Mary came back, we were in the same class. We were together then through grade school, high school, and College.&#13;
My third grade teacher was Sister Sebastian Walsh. I don't remember too much about her. When that year was finished, the new school was opened. I was moved from third grade to fifth grade. I skipped the fourth grade. Sister M. Baptista McGivern was my teacher. Then in sixth grade, I had Sister Mary Alphonse Miller, Sister Rose Marie Maher in the seventh, and Sister Basilia Cronin in the eighth. We loved Sister Basilia. She used to have contests, and we really enjoyed them. When I completed that year in June of Nineteen Hundred Seventeen, it was the end of my grade school education. In September of that year, Mary and I started at Cathedral High School in the Oakland section of Pittsburgh. The Sisters of Mercy taught us at Cathedral High School. I never knew any Sisters of Mercy previously, but my mother and grandmother were taught by them. We had four very happy years there.&#13;
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SMCM: Sister, how did you get to and from school?&#13;
SRIB: We took a streetcar to Craig Street. My home was in East End. We were not very far from the streetcar line.&#13;
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September of that year, Mary and I began our College education, at Seton Hill.&#13;
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SMCM: How did you get to Seton Hill College?&#13;
SRIB: We drove up to Seton Hill. My parents, and my brother were with us for the trip. The way you had to drive to Seton Hill then was very different. You had to go through Turtle Creek. You didn't have a Parkway like you have now. It was a rugged ride, and took a while to get there. I remember I had never been away from home before, and when we got there I cried and when I&#13;
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SMCM: Sister, how did you become aware of Seton Hill College?&#13;
SRIB: We came to know about Seton Hill College from the Sisters who taught us at St. James School in Wilkinsburg, and of course there was information posted about the College. Seton llill was very young then. I think Mary and I were in the seventh graduating class from Seton Hill.&#13;
The first graduating class was in Nineteen Hundred Nineteen. I finished in Nineteen Twenty- · Five. The College was very small then. I believe that there were twenty students in the Senior Class, twenty in the Junior, and twenty in the Sophomore Class.	I think that when we started, we had forty some in the Freshman Class. It was just like one big family. You got to know everyone in the school.  I remember  Sister de Chantal Leis, who was a Junior Professed Sister when I entered the College. She was so very kind to me. She helped me to assemble my  belongings. I used to go to see her every evening  before retiring.  She slept in Lowe Hall.  Mary and I had the room which was the back of Room 228, the very large classroom in Maura Hall.&#13;
We had that room for three years. When we came back as Seniors, we were in Canevan Hall which was opened by that time. The groundbreaking for Canevan Hall was October Twelfth, Nineteen Twenty-Three. That building was opened in September of Nineteen Twenty-Four. Mary and I had private, connecting rooms on the first floor. Sister Marion McKelvy (formerly Sr. Marie Magdalene) was on the same floor. She was in the same class with us. We were good friends. In our first year at Seton Hill, groundbreaking for St. Joseph Hall took place on March Twentieth, Nineteen Twenty-One. We all had our caps and gowns on for the occasion.&#13;
Anytime there was anything special, we wore our caps and gowns.&#13;
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SMCM: What was your Major in College?&#13;
SRIB: When I came, I majored in Latin and had a minor in French and English.	Sister Aloysius Blakely was my major professor, and she was also our class advisor for four years.	She was a wonderful teacher. I just loved her. I Had Mr. Frank Bennett for two years for French. I had him for some English classes too. Also had Sister Electa Boyle for English. I started my French with Sister Marie Elise Blouin, but she said that we knew too much French for her class. We had had three years of French in High School, so she put us in an advanced class. Sister Fides Glass and Sister Evangelist Yahl were in the Art studio. I remember that Sister Fides used to make beautiful Spiritual Bouquet cards. Anytime we wanted one of these cards, Sr. Fides was always gracious about printing one out for us, and I recall that the price was reasonable.&#13;
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SMCM: Sister, you entered the Community, so you would have seen some contrasts on how the College was when you were a student, as opposed to how things evolved after your entrance.&#13;
Could you cite some of these contrasts for us?&#13;
SRIB: Of course, as a student, the College was very much smaller. The last building that was here for students when I first came was Lowe Hall. We didn't have Canevan, (which was opened when I was a Senior), Sullivan, Lynch, Havey, Brownlee or Reeves. I think Sullivan Hall was built in Nineteen Twenty-Nine. I know I used to make candy and send it to my other sister who was here in school. They used to sell a lot of things to make money for (couldn't get the word she was saying). I would presume that the money was for the College. Sister M. De Chantal Leis was the Prefect of the Sodality, when my sister was a Senior. I remember a big festival that&#13;
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she had one time. We had the Festival down in Cecilian Hall. I made many pans of candy for that. We had a little kitchenette on the third floor, which was where I made the candy that we sold. Other people made candy too.&#13;
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SMCM: Sister, where did you have Gym before Sullivan Hall was built?&#13;
SRIB: We had Gym where Sister Ann lnfanger has her office now, down by the Biology Lab. We practiced for basketball there, but when we had games where we played visiting teams, we went down to the Armory because it was larger.&#13;
SMCM: Sister, where did you have your meals as a student?&#13;
SRIB: We ate in the Lowe Hall Dining Room. We had twelve large tables by the part where the mantle is. That took care of the College girls. We had served meals for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. The other part of the Dining Room was for the Academy, which was quite large then.&#13;
SMCM: Who served you, Sister?&#13;
SRIB: The young Sisters served us. Sometimes lay people served us. I remember times at breakfast when we had pancakes, Sister Stanislaus McVeigh, who was Dean, would circulate around to the tables, and if you took one pancake, she would say: "Oh, that isn' t the way you do it. You take two and put one on top of the other, put butter in between, and put the syrup on top." Sister Stanislaus also would say at any Community party we had: "I give a rising vote of thanks to the one who prepared the party."&#13;
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SMCM: Sister, you talked about your Freshman year at the College. What about the other three years? Can you tell us about any significant events during that time?&#13;
SRIB: One year, I don't remember whether it was our second or third year, our class decided that we were going to have a breakfast up in the kitchenette on Third Lowe. We had bacon, pancakes, etc. on November Eleventh for Armistice Day. We sold the breakfast tickets, and made a substantial amount of money from our class.&#13;
Every time a Sister died when I was a student in the College, the College girls went to the Funeral. They always played "Je rusalem, My Happy Home."&#13;
When we were Sophomores at Commencement time, we had "Rose Chain" with the Seniors who were graduating. Both Sophomores and Seniors wore white. We had the formation of the Rosary out on the front lawn. It really didn't last too long, but it was pretty. Some of the other classes had "Lantern Chain," which was always held in the Gym.&#13;
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SMCM: What about your year as a Junior?&#13;
SRIB: As a Junior, we planted our tree in April. We thought that we had planted a Linden tree, but it turned out to be a Horse Chestnut tree.&#13;
SMCM: What did you tell me was significant about the April date for planting your tree? SRIB: It was "Charter Day", the day the College received its Charter.	April Twelfth.&#13;
SMCM: What outstanding event or events took place during your Senior year?&#13;
SRIB: At Commencement time, we planted Ivy. All the Ivy is gone now from the Campus, but the plaques are still there.&#13;
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SRIB: It was June Ninth, Nineteen Twenty Five.&#13;
SMCM: Sister, can you tell me who the President of the College was when you graduated? SRIB: It was Mother Rose Genevieve Rodgers. Mother Mary Raymond Creed died when I was a Junior, and Mother Rose Genevieve was the Assistant Mother. Before long, Mother Rose Genevieve had the Presidency changed to Father Sullivan. When we had priests as Presidents, we had Father Sullivan, then Father Reeves, and the last one was Monsignor Ryan. After that we had Sister Mary Schmidt, then Eileen Farrell, and after Eileen Farrell, we had JoAnn Boyle.&#13;
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SMCM: What happened after you graduated from College?&#13;
SRIB: I went home for a few months, and then I believe it was at Halloween time that I went out to Seton Hill for the weekend. When I went back home, my uncle Tom was there. He always came home on Mondays, because our Grandmother lived with us. He said: "Rose, I would like to ask a favor of you." I said: "Well, what is it?" He said: "Well, I need a teacher, would you come?" I said: Yes, but when will I have to go?" He said: "Tomorrow." So I taught at St.&#13;
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SMCM: Sister, please tell me a little about your uncle Tom.&#13;
SRIB: He was my mother's brother. He was the Pastor at St. Bernard's Parish. They had just opened their new school. The Sisters of St. Joseph from Baden taught there, but they needed another teacher. I got to know the Sisters of St. Joseph when I was very young, because we used to go up to see my uncle at Mt. Galitzen. In fact, that's where I got the Irene in my name. There was a Sister Irene there, and she used to hold her arms out for me to run to her. She asked me if I would take the name Irene when I was confirmed, and I said that I would. She died before I even started to school. Then when I petitioned for a name after entrance, I asked for Rose, and they gave me Rose Irene.&#13;
SMCM: Sister, what did your uncle do at Mt. Galitzen?&#13;
SRIB: He was the Chaplin for the Academy there. I suppose he was the Chaplin for the Sisters too. They had a boys' school there.&#13;
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SMCM: At St. Bernard' s, did your uncle have a housekeeper?&#13;
SRIB: My Aunt Katie kept house for him. She was his Sister. On First Fridays, I used to stay over with her so that I could get to Mass for First Friday. One of the evenings while I was there, I would go to the Convent to visit with the Sisters. They usually used to have some cake and ice cream or something like that. When I taught there, I used to have lunch with my Aunt Katie.&#13;
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SMCM: How did you get to St. Bernard' s from your home?&#13;
SRIB: I took two streetcars. One streetcar took me to town, and then I transferred to another one, which took me to Dormont.&#13;
SMCM: What grade did you teach at St. Bernard' s?&#13;
SRIB: The first two years, I had fourth grade, then fifth grade for two years. They asked me to teach the third grade the last year that I was there. I had five happy years there. There were many nice children. I still hear from some of them.&#13;
I stayed home for a year after teaching at St. Bernard's for five years. I decided to enter. I had&#13;
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Galitzen and St. Bernard' s, so it was difficult to decide which Community I wanted to enter. So I decided on the Sisters of Charity. I think in our early days that my Father and Mother were such good parents, and we had such a lovely home, that they fostered Vocations.&#13;
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SMCM: What date did you enter, and who was your sponsor?&#13;
SRIB: I entered September Twenty-Fourth, Nineteen Thirty-One. My sponsor was Sister Aloysia Blakely. That was fifty-six years ago today.&#13;
SMCM: Who entered with you on that date?&#13;
SRIB: Sister Alice Marie Crates, Sister Carolyn Joseph Wilson, Sister Sara Marie O'Hara, and Sister Mildred Ann Curry entered with me. There were six Sisters who had entered on September eighth, but we all received the habit on January First, Nineteen Thirty-Two. We became white cap Novices and had our Canonical Year. We had classes with Sister Theodosia Murtha. On January First, Nineteen Thirty-Two we received the black cap, and the next day, I was sent to St. Stephen' s in Hazelwood to teach the fifth grade.&#13;
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SRIB: As a Novice, I lived on Fifth Admin. In Our Lady of Perpetual Help Dormitory.&#13;
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SMCM: About how many were in the Novitiate when you entered?&#13;
SRIB: We were considered Novitiate for five years, so I think there may have been forty. There were others who were out on Mission, etc., but I'm not sure how many that would have been.&#13;
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SMCM: Who was the Major Superior when you entered?&#13;
SRIB: Mother M. Eveline Fisher was the Mother Superior when I entered. I don't really remember exactly who the Council Members were. I believe that Sister Victorine Ellsworth was the Treasurer.&#13;
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SMCM: So, Sister Theodosia was your Mistress of Novices? SRIB: Yes, we were the first group that she had.&#13;
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SMCM: Sister, did you see any changes, major or otherwise in the College after you entered and had been away for six years after graduating from the College?&#13;
SRIB: Well, for a while, we didn' t have connections with the College. We were separated from the College situation. After I came back to teach in the College in Nineteen Thirty-Nine, things were changing, but it was when we got into the Sixties that things were quite different.&#13;
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SRIB: Yes, I was sent to St. Stephen's in Hazelwood. I was there from January until June. I thought that I would be going back there, but when the Mission List came out, I was sent to Sacred Heart High School to teach Latin. I was there for six years.&#13;
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SR.IB: At St. Stephen' s, Sister M. Borgia Casey was the Principal, and Sister Mary Clement Dunne was the Sister Servant. Sister Cecilia James Brown was the housekeeper. Sisters Hortense Barclay, Boniface Curran, Mary Agnes Schildkamp, Julia Teresa Dolan, Philip Neri Murray, James Marie Malone, and Constantia Murphy were there. About twenty Sisters were there.&#13;
SMCM: What about Sacred Heart? Do you recall what Sisters were there with you?&#13;
SRIB: When I first went to Sacred Heart, Sister Rose Vincent McNulty was the Sister Servant. Sisters James Regis Stewart, Marie Magdalene (Marion McKelvy), Joanna Gleason, Angelica Little, Regina Clare Breig, Reynita Flynn, Pierre Withum, Miriam Anne Eck, Marie Martha Randall, Esperance Walsh,Sister Mary Rachel Nee, Sister M. Evangeline O' Donnell and Sister Clare Blakely, who was the Principal were there. We had a large group of Sisters because we had a Grade School and a High School. Sr. Marie Martha, Sr. Reynita, and Sr. Miriam Eck were Novices. So was I. I remember when I was first sent to Sacred Heart that I was the only Novice. Each week, I used to have to go to Sr. Rose Vincent and ask for permission to talk to the Sisters. Otherwise, I would not have had anyone to talk to.&#13;
SMCM: Where did you live when you were at Sacred Heart?&#13;
SRIB: We had two houses. One was the old Rectory, and the other was the Convent. When I first went there, I was in the old Rectory. We lived up on the third floor. It was one, great, big room. Sister Reynita, Sister Miriam Anne, and I slept in that part. Sister Regina Clare, and Sister Marie Martha slept in the small room, which was off from the large room. After some time, I don't remember how long, I moved to the other house. I was on the second floor in that house.&#13;
SMCM: Were those the days when the Sisters walked in twos?&#13;
SRIB: Oh yes. You were assigned a companion, you didn't choose your own. Part of the time, Sister Marion McKelvy was my companion, as was Sister Rebecca Kelsey for a while.&#13;
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SRIB: I then went to Seton Hill. I think this move came about because Mother Claudia had been the Dean of Women. We would have called her the Dean of Residence back then when I was in College. She was elected Mother Superior. Sister De Chantal Leis had charge of the Latin and she couldn't take care of it all by herself. Someone else was needed, so I worked with Sister De Chantal. I taught Latin full time from Nineteen Thirty-Nine through Nineteen Forty-Eight. In Nineteen Forty-Eight, I became Registrar, so I only taught one class in Latin then. At that time, the Registrar had charge of Admissions too. I had just come from doing my charge this particular evening, had stopped at the fountain to get a drink. Mother Maria Benedict Monahan came up the stairs. She said: "Sister, I want to see you in my office."  I said: ''Now, Mother?" She said: "Yes, Sister." So, I went over to her office. She said: "Sit down, Sister. I think I'm&#13;
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going to make you Registrar." I said: "I don't know anything about being a Registrar, Mother." I said: "I've always done all of my own papers, but I type with just one finger." She said: "Oh, that's not the most important thing." I said: "Is someone going to take the classes that I've been teaching?" She said: "By the way, what all are you teaching?" I said: "The one class I have is special. The girls have to complete two years of work in one year." "Well, she said. You're to keep that class. They say that you keep them happy, and that the girls get the work." I said: "Mother, if that's what you want me to do, I'll try it, but I really don't know anything about it." I wasn't supposed to tell anyone about the appointment yet.&#13;
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SMCM: Who did you succeed as Registrar?&#13;
SRIB: It was Sister M. Eucharia O'Hagan, the only other Registrar that we had up until that time. Sister Deborah Kelly came after me, so the College has had just three Registrars. Sister Eucharia was the Registrar for thirty years, and I was there for twenty-three years.&#13;
I was teaching Summer School that Summer, and I lived up on Fifth Maura One day I was getting a test ready and the phone rang. It was Mother Maria Benedict who called to tell me that she had informed Sister Eucharia about me being made Registrar. Mother said: "I want you to take over." I said: "Now, Mother?" She said: "Yes, Sister." I stopped my test and went down. Before I got there, Sr. Eucharia was standing at the foot of the stairway. When I saw her, I had to laugh. She said: "Has Mother told you, Sister?" I said: "Yes, she did, and I'm coming down to see if you can give me some help." She said: "Well, you can't go into the Registrar's office because Sister Mary Magdalene Foley is there, and no-one is allowed to know about the appointment." She said: "I'll take you down to Helen Schmadel's office to help you." I said: "Sister, I can't learn about the Registrar's office in Helen Schmadel's office. I have to be in the Registrar's office." Sr. Eucharia continued to say that we couldn't go into the Registrar's office, so I told her that I was going to go and ask Mother Maria Benedict about it. So I came up to the second floor and Mother Maria Benedict and the Council were there working on the Mission list. I knocked at the door and Mother answered. I said: "Excuse me Mother, may I speak to you for a minute?" I said: "Sr. Eucharia won't let me in the Registrar's office. She said that no-one is allowed to know this, so she's going to take me to Helen Smadel's office to help me." I told her that I can' t learn it down there, so Mother, may I tell Sr. Mary Magdalene that after I teach my class, I will be working in the Registrar's office? Mother told me that it was alright for me to do this. At first, when I went to the Registrar's office for help, Sr. Eucharia had me showing people through the house. I decided after a while that I wasn't going back as I already knew how to take people on a tour of the place, and I wasn' t being taught anything about the office. I had been doing this for years. I was up in my room on fifth Maura preparing my class one evening when the phone rang. It was Sr. Eucharia. She said: "Sister, aren't you going to come down to learn anything about this office?" I said: ''No, Sister, not unless you're going to teach me something about the office. I know how to take people around the house, but I'm not learning anything about the office." She said: "When would it be convenient for you to come?" " Whatever is suitable for you, would be fine with me." "What about after lunch?", she said. After lunch will be fine, Then she said: "Oh, but you always go for a walk with Sr. Marie Magdalene (Marion McKelvy) after lunch." I then told her that the walk could be omitted, but she was insisting that we still take the walk. Do you know how far we walked? It was from the dining room to the&#13;
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SRIB: Yes, she went into Pittsburgh to St. Anselm's to take care of the High School library.&#13;
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SRIB: The first year that I was Registrar, Sister Mary Carla Radermacher was my secretary. She was really a great help, especially with her skill in typing. That year, in the Spring, we had the Middle States Evaluation, so we had a lot of things to prepare. We passed the evaluation. I forget how long Sr. Mary Carla was in the office.&#13;
At the end of that first year, I was told that my office was being moved up to Second Maura. It was a difficult time to have to do this as it was at the time of exams, and all the grades would be coming in. Again, Sr. Mary Carla was very helpful, organizing and packing. This downstairs office was needed for a Music studio. We had Rooms 222 and 224 on Second Maura. There was no door between the two rooms, so I was in one room, and Sr. Mary Carla was in the other. It was a rather inconvenient arrangement for when I needed to have Sr. Mary Carla do some secretary work for me because I had to knock on her door and possibly interrupt something she was doing. Mr. Troutman had the third room. After a while, I had three doors put in, and that way we could really spread out.&#13;
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SMCM: Did you have another Sister for Secretary after Sr. Mary Carla?&#13;
SRIB: For a very short time, I had Sister Jeanne Ellen Morris. Then for another short period of time, I had Sister Jean Augustine. Sr. Jean Augustine really wanted to teach. I didn't have any Sisters after that. They were all lay people.&#13;
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SRIB: I was Registrar from Nineteen Forty-Eight until Nineteen Seventy-One. Then I was made Co-Ordinator of Tutorial Services from Nineteen Seventy-One until Nineteen Seventy-Nine.&#13;
SMCM: Would you like to explain your job in Tutorial Services?&#13;
SRIB: I had a small office up on Third Administration. That's where the "Opportunity Students" were. They were the students who needed help with their subjects. I was in charge of getting tutors for them.&#13;
SMCM: Who were these Tutors?&#13;
SRIB: They were students, very good students. They were paid for doing this, and I was also in charge of verifying that they had satisfactorily done the tutoring work which needed to be done with the "Opportunity Students."&#13;
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SRIB: It has been since Nineteen Thirty-Nine, so that's a total of about forty-eight years.&#13;
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SMCM: You have seen many changes occurring on campus. Would you care to make any comments?	How do you think the College compares with other Colleges?&#13;
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SRIB: I've seen different buildings being erected, and changes in the Curriculum. I think that we have a very excellent College.&#13;
SMCM: You have also seen a diminishment in the number of Sisters on the Faculty. How do you feel about that?&#13;
SRIB: I hate to see us not having more Sisters, but there are none to be had. Then too, the Faculty is much larger, which makes it more expensive.&#13;
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SMCM: This is a continuation of an interview which is being conducted as part of the Oral History Program of the Sisters of Charity of Seton Hill. The interviewee is Sr. Rose Irene Boggs. The interviewer is Sr. Marie Corona Miller at Seton Hill. The date is September Twenty-Fourth, Nineteen Eighty-Seven.&#13;
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SMCM: Sister, we were talking about the positions which you held as Registrar. At one point, the job responsibilities changed. Could you tell us about that?&#13;
SRIB: In Nineteen Sixty, the office was divided, and Admissions was put in a separate office. I believe that Dr. Robert McCarthy was in charge of Admissions. He was there for just a short while. Then Sister Jacinta Mann ( no longer in the Community) was there for some time, followed by Sister Clare Handerhan (also no longer in the Community) for a short period of time. I don't recall who the other successors were. Nevertheless, Admissions became a separate entity&#13;
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SRIB: The Registrar took care of all the records, all the reports, financial aid, and placement.&#13;
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SMCM: Sister, when we changed our prayer style after Vatican II, how did you feel about that? SRIB: I think it was wonderful that we changed to the Office. That's one of the changes that I really do like. Many other Sisters were happy about this particular change too. I was pleased with the moderate changes in the habit, but not on all that are going on now.&#13;
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SMCM: Is there anything else that you would like to tell me?&#13;
SRIB: I don't think so. That takes care of it all. Don't you think so?&#13;
SMCM: It's your life, so if you are satisfied, that will be fine.	Sister, I want to thank you for all the time you spent preparing for this interview, and for the time and energy expended in telling it to me. I always feel enriched by hearing about how the Sisters have lived out their lives in the Community.&#13;
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